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Anonymous asked: Okay, I've got two questions: Was Natasha raised in the Red Room or did they train her there after she accepted Bucky's miracle drug to save Ivan? And, did Ivan know what they were doing to her? Thanks for your time! :)

I cover this in more detail in my Secret Origins series, which has three parts: one, two, three.  I also have a tag for origin stuff you might want to look through.

Basically, though, the “Natasha was raised an orphan the Red Room” idea comes from a series that decided everything we ever knew about Natasha’s history was wrong, and ran with it.

Anyway, after that story got published, it was really easy to be confused about her history, which is a big side effect of rewriting a character’s entire past. So Marvel published another miniseries, Black Widow: Deadly Origin, in part to clarify a new official version of her origin. In that series, she enters the Red Room in her twenties, as the price for saving Ivan. That is the “real” continuity as it currently stands! But stories can change.

As for Ivan— he knew enough that he didn’t want Natasha to enter the Red Room, even at the cost of her life, and I think it makes sense that they pursued him because he had some connection with Soviet intelligence. While Natasha was there, they were kept separate, but she still tried to confide in him.  What he knows exactly is up to how the reader wants to shade it.  But no one knows the everything of the Red Room.

Anonymous asked: Has Natasha ever worked together with Black Panther?

The closest I can think of off the top of my head is Avengers #111-112, when Natasha guest stars for a while with an Avengers lineup T’Challa is part of. #112 focuses on the two of them in parallel character arcs, but they do not directly interact much.

Natasha also shows up in Black Panther during the Civil War crossover event, but that’s a pretty standard “cameo appearance character gets hosed to demonstrate how badass our book’s protagonist is” one-off. T’Challa is also weirdly sexist! Civil War, man.

Natasha: Don’t make me have to—
T’Challa: I would never fight a woman. I have people for that.

The best team up between Natasha and Black Panther is imo Klaws of the Panther #4, which features Shuri in the Black Panther role.  Shuri recruits Natasha for her infiltration skills, but Natasha also helps Shuri confront her fears and guilt and anger. The writing is very old school exposition-y, but I’m a sucker for this kind of team-up story.

Shuri: I’m afraid I’m going to lose myself in it. That the person I want to be will be subsumed and only the killer will remain.
Natasha: …Of all the weapons ever made, the most powerful by far is compassion. But you have to have compassion for yourself before you can have it for anyone else.

Natasha is, ofc, sometimes better at giving advice than applying it to herself. This is the final issue of a 4 issue miniseries, but it’s easy enough to follow as a single story.

Panels from Black Panther #23 and Klaws of the Panther #4.
Anonymous asked: Whenever I see people talk about women led films, it's always about white women. Hunger Games, Divergent, etc etc etc. Do you think Marvel will ever gives us something not revolving around a white woman is am I asking for too much?

I don’t think Marvel will even make a film about a white woman, anon, but I do not think you are asking for too much.