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Ok, I finally can’t stand it any longer

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Alright. All this damned complaining about “ERMAGERD MAKE A BLERK WIDER MERVIE!!!!!!111!” i’ve finally had it with. Seriously, do you guys realize how terrible of a person Black Widow is? Do you have any clue? Probably not since many of you have only seen the movies where she’s the “good guy”.
A list of things Black Widow has done:

  • Got Hawkeye thrown in a Maximum Security prison for shits and giggles basically
  • Worked in SHIELD basically as an undercover spy for HYDRA
  • Pretended to want to be in a relationship with Tony Stark to steal his technology
  • Tried to trick Hawkeye into completing her assassination target when injured and he almost did if Spider Man hadn’t stopped him.

This is what i can remember as of right now, the point is Black Widow is not nearly as honorable of a person as the movies make her out to be. She is a manipulator who will stop at nothing, including manipulating and harming her teammates to get what she wants. Her only loyalties lay in herself.

I’m not saying not to make a female headed movie but why not try for Scarlet Witch? or Storm? Those both have far more honorable lives without loosing any of the inner strength they represent and have.

It sounds like you are basing half your interpretation on Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes? But haven’t seen all the episodes or something, because she threw Clint into that prison to protect him, and was also a spoilers: triple agent who was always working for SHIELD. The last thing is from an Untold Tales of Spider-Man issue, iirc, and yes, it is true Natasha did spin Clint into a super-villain career, before she defected from the KGB. The fallout is what pushed her to reform herself. It’s all there on the wiki.

But I don’t think any Natasha fan believes she’s never done bad things. The movies tell us this, over and over— a lot of fans want a Black Widow movie to see the awful crimson place she came from. Her story is about redemption and liberation and how who you choose to be means more than what you are made to do. Natasha has a supervillain skillset but heroic intentions and the tension between the two is part of why I like her. To say Natasha’s only loyalties are to herself is to ignore pretty much her entire 50 year comic history.

And, well, I’m kinda tired of hearing the only reason I want a Black Widow film is because I don’t know anything about other Marvel heroines and probably don’t know anything about Black Widow, either. Because I’m a massive Natasha fan, I know more about her, and that is how this thing usually works. I buy Storm’s comic every month because I like Ororo, too, because I’m actually able to appreciate female characters with diverse narratives and personalities instead of forcing them into some weird mental death match where only one can be good enough. I am okay with these life choices.

Look, people decide if they want to see a film all the time based on trailers, but fans who decide they want to see a Black Widow movie based on three whole films are secretly confused and need to be argued out of it. It’s just gatekeeping in another guise.

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Crossbones: Shoot her!

One of the things I love about Natasha having her own series is she can actually beat the bad guy every now and again. Natasha has an established aura of competence that sometimes, paradoxically, means writers bring her in to establish the competence of their characters. Natasha gets knocked out in three panels to set up a fight between Daredevil and Echo, gets captured by HAMMER to facilitate hero moments for Pepper Potts and Maria Hill, and though she bailed Bucky out constantly, fifty issues of Captain America appearances never saw her defeat anyone more notable than faceless AIM mooks.

Because Natasha is so omnipresent, I think there’s been this assumption that these showings get balanced out by the foes she defeats on the regular. Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor get dragged into a lot of cameos, too, and not all of them are flattering. But Natasha doesn’t have her own demons to fight, every month. Or, she didn’t. So seeing her beating Crossbones almost as an afterthought was pretty nifty.

From Black Widow #9, by Nathan Edmondson and Phil Noto.